Build summary | Crushing Strength from a fallen Temple Knight, Choose between Wrath and Iron |
Recommended starting class(es) | Temple Knight |
Recommended Soul Level | |
Recommended stats (Leave at default (**) if not raised) |
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Vitality | 50 |
Will/Intelligence | 18 (30) |
Endurance | 40 |
Strength | 34 (41) |
Dexterity | ** |
Magic | ** |
Faith | 36 (16) |
Luck | ** |
Recommended equipment |
Right Hand
Left Hand
Rings
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Recommended spells/miracles |
Spells
Miracles
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Gameplay tips and progression |
Okay, this is the first build I decided to do on my own. I saw Ilkar's Faith Build and his comment about STR builds having higher base damage, but Faith builds having higher survivability, so I thought "Why not do both?" The Silver Dragon lacks the sheer brute force of a STR build, but still hits pretty hard with Dragon Bone Smasher, or Crushing Claymore and Curse Weapon. Obviously, you're going to be using the DBS for a little while, unless you have enough Greystone that Scirvir's Pure will let you make the Claymore. For this reason, I'd prioritize getting up to at least 20 STR first, then maxing END to 40. Ignore VIT for now, yes, ignore it. PvP will come later, once you've gotten CW and SC, plus the stats to use them. By then your VIT should be at a PvE respectable 25 or so. Once you have STR and END for the Dragon Bone Smasher, crank up your Intelligence to 15 (If you want Warding) or 18 (Curse Weapon or Warding+Cloud), then your faith to 16 (SC, enough said). After that, pour into Vitality until you reach 30. This should let you at least put up a respectable fight against any wayward Black Phantoms that come your way, as well as letting you one-shot almost every peon short of the Rock Worms and Bearbugs with the DBS in 2 hands. Now, after you complete 1-1, you're going to want to farm 2-1's miners until you get that first Iron Knuckles set. Upgrade it to +6 as soon as possible, it'll be useful later. For now, go to 4-1 and loot it. The Crescent Falchion and Adjudicator's shield will serve you well. Next, invite some friends and take Stonefang Tunnel by storm. Make sure you do your darndest not to die against Flamelurker too much, or the DBS will drop beyond your reach. If you pull it off without dying, the DBS is there, begging to be used against the Dragon God. Why not give it a test run? After proving the legends correct, take the DBS to Scirvir and get your Pure Greystone. Make sure you can spare 10 units of weight, it's heavy! Next, trade the spare Talisman of God to Sparkly the Crow to get a Colorless Demon Soul. Give Flamelurker's soul to Ed in 2-1 and upgrade DBS. If you can use it by now, head to 1-2. Watch and revel as the puny hoplites fall before you! Even if you hit them head on their shields, they'll fold in one shot. Progress through the level, keeping your HP up with your minor regeneration and the grass you find. Once you get to Tower Knight, introduce him to your enormous friend. At 20 STR I was pulling 100 damage per shot…to his feet. A double-handed R2 did 1010 damage to his head, finishing him off in one fall. Moving on… You've already killed Dragon God, or should have, so you can proceed right to 1-3. Everything should still be biting the stone streets in one blow of your trusty DBS. If you feel like it, manipulate your World Tendencies and get the World 1 and World 2 Primeval Demons at this time. DBS+3 can one-shot Fat Ministers with its backstab, unbuffed. After getting the Iron Ring of Keys and Official's Hat, rescue Biorr and Yuria. They're going to help you, whether they want to or not. Biorr will provide you with the diversion you need to put the hurt on Penetrator, and Yuria will gladly teach you Curse Weapon for his soul. After this, it's pretty much up to you. You could storm the Valley of Defilement and get your Blessed Iron Knuckles +5, or farm up a serious amount of souls from 4-2, or even test yourself out against some unsuspecting Blues or Blacks. Justification for Blessed Iron Knuckles: Also, as per Ilkar's suggestion, you could go for 16 Faith and pour points into Intelligence to get both Warding and Curse Weapon. I had overlooked this entirely, so THANK YOU to Ilkar for pointing out this possibility. As such, I posted the secondary stat spread in () and decided to call it "Iron" and the more agressive spread "Wrath." With the Iron Silver Dragon you'll want to make good use of Curse Weapon at the right time to blow your enemies away, but at other times use the Faith Build's 18HP regen per second with the Blessed Greatsword +5 if you need to buy time, or the Knight's Sword for the finish. The damage will be much less than Wrath's but your survivability after Second Chance breaks is much higher. Wrath Silver Dragon combines the high-faith high-damage for Blessed Iron Knuckles and the Curse Weapon for Dragon Bone Smasher. I've actually noticed that if I start out with DBS, most people throw up Warding. After that happens, switch to dual Iron Knuckles and punch away. As soon as warding drops, charge in and crush them with DBS. With 41 STR, you can one-hand the DBS for significant damage and still have your Iron Knuckles out to parry. If you pull it off, you can score an instant kill or at least crack someone's SC. WSD is for the more thrill-seeking ones who don't care too much about defense, while ISD gives more leeway for mistakes. Choose whichever one is best for your playstyle. P.S. Ilkar, I swear that I'm gonna pull a triple KO with God's Wrath, just so that I can understand what it feels like. |
The Silver Dragons SL124
Ilkar's right: this can turn into a wall of text pretty fast. Please take the time to read it through.
Indeed, hehe.
I'm glad you read what I did, and despite this combination of stats being less than ideal, you have done a very good job of making the best of it and explaining it well. Scarily enough, a +1 from me. =P
I would do it a little differently, and ditch the Faith entirely in favour of 30 Int to allow the use of Curse Weapon and Warding, you can still use Adjudicator's and Regenerator's without any penalty, and with 16 Faith your Blessed Weapon damage will still be considerable. Cursed Crushing weapons would still be your best bet for damage.
Think of it as a Str build variation, optimised for a defensive playstyle, rather than a whole new hybrid build.
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Nice looking build !! +1
nice way of explaining things out damn u put alot of effort into typing it other then thoes ppl doing it shortcut ways, u rocks + 1 from me too!
wat kind of armours do recommand
i have a build like this…the blessed knuckles offhand really is great, although not for the reason you describe. The blessed knuckles is the only blessed weapon that can parry. It's a huge advantage, healing AND the ability to parry.
My build has five less vit than yours, and has 34 str and 36 faith. It also has 30 int, for CW and Warding. Naturally, I run basically only the DBS, it is far and away the strongest with 34 str. I started as priest class, which saved me a level, since priests have really low dex. Due to this I can't use poles, but I dont use them anyway, so whatever. Anyway, fairly solid build, good explanation, and (from my experience on my version) quite fun to play.
wat armour do u recommand for this build
considering the weight of the DBS, i'd recommend leather or black leather so you can still roll and not look like a drunken whale. Old king's or bimded is too heavy
@ Templar knights thanks alot HHAHA btw i lvoe this build so much owns in pvp i get out left and right hang bless iron knuckle and was annoyingp pl like mad and killled him , after killing im he sent me a msg saying im a noob lOL good build !
i played until new game ++ and no 1 was there =(
Could have been that it was an off time, or perhaps you kept levelling up, or even that your connection was bad. Something else you have to consider is hotspots. Areas like 4-1, 1-3, 1-4 and the like frequently get invaded so you're more likely to have someone to flatten there.
@David DS: Yes, for some reason using dual iron knuckles is even cheaper and noobish than spamming a Dragon Mirdan Hammer +5 at level 30 and camping for BPs. Some things you might want to expand your variety are:
2 Great Axes, 1 Blessed and 1 Crushing. Switch them after someone puts up warding and wait for the hate mail.
Crushing or Blessed Claymore, it owns
Istarelle, if your opponent is adamant on just not letting you attack, turtle away behind a shield and poke them. your physical damage will be non-existant, but you'll do magic damage from faith
Claymore, it owns
Blessed or Crushing Halberd/Mirdan Hammer to use in one hand and parry/riposte someone
Claymore, it owns
and finally, CLAYMORE
Did I miss anything?
You forgot Claymore
Ah, but of course:
CLAY! MORE!
I just logged on today to check the builds page, and found my very own build sitting on the front page. Thank you to everyone who likes this idea. It's kinda nice to see it on the same page as the super-popular ones.
BTW, I pulled off my first double kill with God's Wrath and boy did it feel GOOD!
i'm pretty much in love with this build, the weapon choices and playstyle for wrath is almost perfect for me!
thank you so much for taking the time to write this out and put it online! +1
quick question, any1 have a suggested armor for the build?
I personally have been using the Dark Silver Armor, it seems fitting as this class is based off a Fallen Templar and Garl a fallen Bishop.
but i'm open for any suggestions that could improve my character
use dark silver, but Garl isnt a 'fallen bishop' hes a holy knight, use dark silver chestplate, boots, DSS old kings gauntlets, your choice for a helm, i think adding any help with over burden you
You could do that…but you'll need either to not use the DBS, use Ring of GS, or put considerably more points into END to still be able to roll. Good Luck with it!