120 dex fencer/slasher

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Build summary	uses estoc and kilij
Recommended starting class(es)	knight
Recommended Soul Level
	Recommended stats (Leave at default (**) if not raised)
Vitality	66
Will/Intelligence	14
Endurance	28
Strength	14
Dexterity	50
Magic	10
Faith	11
Luck	7
Recommended equipment	right hand: +5 sharp estoc +5 sharp kilij left hand: silver catalyst armor: leather helm rogue armor brushwood gauntlets brushwood leggings rings: eternal warriors cling/magical dullness ring you can use foe/friends ring if you prefer
Recommended spells/miracles	warding
Gameplay tips and progression	i noticed there was a shortage of DEX builds that relied on smaller weapons and a complete lack of a good fencer build or a good kilij build, so i decided to post this. first off cast warding and try and keep warding on at all times. first start with a estoc and poke your opponent a few times to soften them up. or you can use the wardings defense to charge for a running backstab. this build is very adept at fishing for back stabs because it can take large amounts of physical damage. there are many times i was doing bad and got 1 backstab and won the match, dont underestimate the estoc. once you have your opponent hurt you can either finish them with the estoc or switch to the kilij and purse them. i noticed in my play that while the estoc is great for pursuing a injured opponent it leaves you open and they are expecting this. thats why the kilij is better for this aspect, and if they heal you can punish them with either a up close stunlock or a critical backstab. NOTES: vs great axes: use the kilij more because they are difficult to get backstabs on and its better to try to lock them. vs dual kats: use the estoc and pick away at them with dodge strikes and 1 hand locks, be wary of getting to close or they can get a push lock going. vs pole arms: ive found the kilij to be more useful against these types of weapons its best to stay close and straf them hard, avoid trying to charge for backstabs as it will rarely pay off vs BBS: use the estoc and pick away at them until the buffs wear off then go for the kill. the dodge attack can really frustrate a BBS user. vs DBS: use the estocs range to poke them after dodging there rushes, maybe even get a running backstab once there CW/LW wears off. vs spellswords/mages: all i can say is avoid ignite and try to get them to waste there MP. either weapon can shine here. this build is all about juggling two very deadly but flawed weapons. i dont feel either of these weapons really shine by themselves, but put together they supply you with eveything you need to deal with a wide variety of enemys.

Comments

lFatalShotl 05 Sep 2010 06:56

Not a bad idea but your numbers are a little iffy. i would drop the vitality down to 45 or even 40 and use that to pump your end to 40. stamina is crucial in this game. especially for pvp. another popular thing that i've been seeing is 2nd chance and warding. once SC cracks they throw up warding which isnt a bad idea. so you may want to consider to invest some leftover points into int and faith. I myself dont use SC just bc I like being a rebel like that :P But it's up to you. I'm not quite sure how hard hitting you're weapons are so if you find you're not quite hitting hard enough you may want to consider either CW or LW. you wouldnt be able to use warding unless you got your int higher, but again you could play with your numbers some more.

Sorry for the load of text. maybe these numbers work for you, i wouldnt know. but i like your non main stream build here though I've been seeing more and more estocs with their crazy ridiculous phantom range that happens at random times o.o

+1 from me. :)

lFatalShotl 05 Sep 2010 06:58

Oh and dont use the brushwood anything IMO. the stamina penalty just isnt worth it. :P

Astrichthyes 09 Sep 2010 07:13

Exactly, you benefit much more from something smaller than the brushwood. I recommend any of the following armors:
-binded
-ancient king's
-saint's
-rogue's
-hunter's
Honestly though, you would be better off with basic dex-build stats: 40-50 VIT, 40 END, 18 INT, 50 DEX. The kilij is a very fast weapon, and against an especially aggressive opponent, you will want to roll around them quite a bit. Warding is ineffective against spellswords, mages, and faith builds, so use that with caution. I would recommend 15 INT minimum and 16 FTH for second chance as you don't need to rebuff that consistently/ depend on it. Based on your playing style, you can probably get away with 30 END, but i wouldnt recommend any less than that. Oh, i might also mention that other than dual kat's, most dex builds like the estoc and kilij. I personally prefer a fatal secret dagger and kilij, but i play very patiently and wait for backstabs. The kilij is good for just about anything you can't easily backstab.

lFatalShotl 10 Sep 2010 03:38

^^ yea that's pretty much what you want to do. I'd say maybe put a little more into endurance. but if you find that you dont need the full stamina gauge then go for it. :) and a real popular thing i've been seeing is after SC cracks people throw up warding. But like Astrichthyes said it's ineffective against said builds.

Astrichthyes 10 Sep 2010 06:35

Thank you FatalShot :) I might also add that i myself like the estoc because it is slightly unpredictable compared to the kilij and has both stunlock and phantom range. Like i said, go with most of the normal dex build reqs if not all of them. Not only will you have more mobility, you can always change your mind on what weapon you want to use. I personally don't use CW normally, so if you share that with me, allocate your stats elsewhere. One final thing to think about: VIT cannot be deleveled, so if you have 66 VIT on your build, you're stuck with it.

attack power

Thy nazgul 18 Oct 2010 00:00

KK, the build has some stat flaws, but they have already said that. The main problem is that you are missing a good buff. The sharp weps must be buffed or the attack will be kinda lame, around 330.