| Build summary | A high VIT and Defense build that breaks opponents armor and weapons because they can… |
| Recommended starting class(es) | Knight |
| Recommended Soul Level | 154 |
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Recommended stats (Leave at default (**) if not raised) |
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| Vitality | 99 |
| Will/Intelligence | 15 |
| Endurance | 54 |
| Strength | 20 |
| Dexterity | 15 |
| Magic | 12 |
| Faith | 12 |
| Luck | ** |
| Recommended equipment |
LH1 - Steel Shield +10 - LH2 - Silver Catalyst RH1- Scraping Spear RH2- Norther Regaila (pure white) (pure black) Ring 1- Ring of great strength Ring 2 - Eternal warrior's ring |
| Recommended spells/miracles |
Warding- side note: although 14 INT allows you for the second slot allowing you to equip warding. having INT at 15 allows you to cast it twice before having to refill your magic again instead of only once. Second Chance - (thanks Dr Horrible for suggestion) this add an additional 600 - 800 health for when your initial health is gone. so in really this adds another 600 - 800+ health to the already massive health you have. making it extremely tough for the opponent to finish you off with that much health. side note: this needs 100 MP to cast so getting INT to 15 is a must. |
| Gameplay tips and progression |
The idea for this build is to outlast your opponent while breaking the opponents stuff to the point where the weapons can't harm you and the armor will be completely shattered. making destroying the opponent that much more fun:D The key for this is The high VIT and Defense. its good to make sure you have plenty of full moons, new moons, old spices, and ed's grindstone for this long battle. The high END, allows you to not only wear the best armor but also allows you to have no speed penalty. this is key for when you need to refill your heath and magic. The battle plan for This build is to break the opponent's armor and weapons with the Scraper spear and then finish them off with the Norther Regaila. it may seem like a pain or highly improbably to do this but i've done it plenty of times. and this is not just for katana users. this works on pretty much any weapon or armor. (i've broke them all lol) The keys to making this work is - always have warding on OR - Always have second chance on - Don't try to use up too much stamina -Heal first. attack second - last but not least…BE PATIENT *EXCEPTION* Conclusion |
The Breaker
this looks like a wicked build. i once made a punishing character that used the scraping spear. but it was more of a "you cant catch me build build rather than a "get up and pwn your face in" build. +1 from me.
"Although my brother left me for dead
And he tried to kill me multiple times,
After the first failed attempt
I still love him…" -Cecil FFIV
thanks alot man this was my first build post on here so i was hoping people would like it. I mean it works for me really well and opponents get so frustrated so i thought hey why not share this with people. so im glad you liked it :D
The overall concept is good. I suggest pushing faith up to 16 and using the ToB. It is worth taking the 4 points off vitality for the extra 800 hp from second chance. Warding can't be used with SC, but it is faster to cast and is effective after your opponent breaks SC. Also, the King's armor set may be more useful than heavy armor to avoid stamina penalties and provide a more efficient build in soul form. Remember the main pvp level is around 120, so vit and end could be decreased since the scraping spear provides an offensive route. +1
Lame build. It doesn't take skill or honor to hide behind a shield and break your opponent's gear. I've seen a lot of players eject themselves from battle if they are against a scraping spear user. Builds like this are part of the reason the activity in DS is dying down. You don't believe me? then why do i only see a few red signs every once in a while when i am hosting? If you want to still find players to fight in a year or two, i would (and i am) discouraging this type of build. -1
Thanks for the input, well Dr horrible that is lol. i was wondering why there were so few people at my level haha. well this build was mainly for DEF and high VIT and pretty much break them down and get people frustrated then finish them off with the NR. Astrichthyes was probably one of the people i did it to lol. but with what you said in mind i definitely can' t keep this build and expect to get to 120 so I think switching to the kings armor is a good idea and my only problem will be defense that was the main selling point but ill see what i can do. thanks alot for your input ill be sure to have all that in mind as i make my next build.
and astrichthyes i do see your point but its a legit build that is very useful and can kill quite often. but at the same time it takes time to break weapons and armor so while im doing that i can easily be killed if someone has the right strategy. dont take it out on people if you couldn't figure out the right strategy to kill them Yourself -_-
Actually, no, i've never fought you, but i've fought a lot of people who use similar builds, most of which don't meet the req's for the scraping spear so they do minimal damage while they break your gear. It's a strategy that lacks skill and is easily overcome with parries. The builds i see taking this down without a problem are faith builds. The large sword of moonlight has 800 durability and cuts through your shield like butter, as does any magical weapon. I'd also imagine you'd have trouble against mages, moon builds, light weapon users, etc. If you want to make a build that is as defensive as it is effective, you'd best look at a faith build. You can amp up your magical defense to well over 300 and still use a heavy shield with istarelle. You know what, i'm gonna make my own faith build and design it for such purposes. It's still a -1
well then thats my point, if you felt it wasn't a good build in general then i understand its your opinion go ahead but you started to just hate on the idea of people in general using this build i wanted to make sure it wasn't because of that, if it was then that is lame. but that seems to not be the case so i apologize.
but with what you said in mind, when your going against faith builds or any builds that have high durability weapons or armor, your not expected to break them.(although i have it just takes time :P) but thats what the NR is for. so you can go strength for strength with them. so i take off the shield. and have a two handed NR and generally do win those battles. ( while LSoM does stop me from using the shield i often find that its an terrible weapon to use if your actually using that weapon to kill the person. i've killed lots of people who used that sword. its a good strategy stopper for shields but thats about it. the NR takes care of it no problem. as for parries they are easy to avoid. just strike twice with the spear then move. then strike once with spear then move. once you mess with their timing its very easy to not get parried with the spear.)
mages i feel are always tough no matter what build you use, they have a whole bag a tricks to come at you with so that could mean a whole ordeal of strategies they can get you with, but generally i just see what the strategy is that they are trying to do and work from there. they are usually very simple and are very easy to beat. but some of them are tricky ill give them credit they can get you good. but again thats with just about any build. its all about strategy and i think that is what makes this game great.
Now you probably looked at this and saw a simple run of the mill break armor then kill . but there's a lot more strategy that comes with this, the one thing i think separates this build from the other break builds is that this build is FOR breaking armor and weapons, but its BUILT like a high VIT and high DEF NR build. so if your in a situation where you just can't break the stuff for what ever reason you can still battle them straight up and win.
the only thing i would think of changing about this would be Dr Horrible's suggestion of changing warding to Second Chance to get that extra 600 - 800 health. very good suggestion.
Im making a SL 120 version of this build and it should be coming soon for all those that care
I, for one, parry on the second jab from a spear quite often, the timing isn't difficult. Northern Regalia is a nice weapon, but the moveset is very predictable and has short range. No matter how you look at it, it does NOT take a lot of skill to break weapons. Spear users are very easy to backstab because they stop when they stab and their attacks only reach a very narrow peripheral range. You wouldn't stand a chance if that was your strategy. As for having 99 vit, it's still not enough to save you from high-output weaponry. What if your shield is broken? You can't use it without losing major hitres, so it's NR or bust. You rely far too heavily on a shield and you'll be in trouble against the wrong guys.
man you really must go against some predictable guys. i in no way rely that much on the shield but it does help to block while i try to break weapons. so its only a compliment to my weapon not the main point. and as for high output weapons thats what ward is for. trust me I've gone against them all with all the spells and what not they put on it and it only does about half health with ward on.
and you know what your right. it takes ZERO skill to break weapons. but it does take skill to break weapons efficiently. what do i mean by that. well by the very examples you listed. you can back stab someone easily or parry them easily when they are using the spear and shield. they are very easy to take out if the opponent isn't skilled with it. you have to know when to attack, when its alright to attack, when you attack too much. you give too little credit my friend to the skill involved. or maybe you've just gone against too many people who have no idea what they are doing.
Thats the problem with some people. If you never fight a person with skill in those weapons, then u will be hard pressed to make a good, non biased opinion. For the longest time, i saw nothing but invading BP with dual katanas. I kill them easily and the bitch to me how i did it. I ask if they KNOW how to use them and they reply NO. Well damn, dosent that suck? Skill makes the difference in every aspect of life. Weapons just help u.
i've made the 120 character and PERSONALLY i find the second chance to be alright, it honestly i feel doesn't help me much except be a safety net. it has helped on occasion but i feel having ward helped most