| Build summary | Light Weapon Strength Build |
| Recommended starting class(es) | Priest |
| Recommended Soul Level | 122 |135 |
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Recommended stats (Leave at default (**) if not raised) |
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| Vitality | 45 | 50 |
| Will/Intelligence | 15 | 15 |
| Endurance | 40 | 40 |
| Strength | 40 | 48 |
| Dexterity | ** |
| Magic | 30 | 30 |
| Faith | 16 | 16 |
| Luck | ** |
| Recommended equipment |
RH1:Crushing Claymore +5/Crushing Guillotine Axe +5 Rings: Body form:Eternal Warrior's Ring/Regenerator's Ring/Ring Of Magical Dullness/Master's Ring(Guillotine axe only) Armor:For male characters Ancient King's and for female ones binded set. You will be able to add some more weight, so if you dont mind some stamina regen penalty add a couple of heavier armor pieces. |
| Recommended spells/miracles |
Spells |
| Gameplay tips and progression |
The two variants are invader and host, 122 is low enough to invade all and 135 is high enough to host. Wardens are the protectors of what is good, and they are adept warriors that are familiar with the magic lore. OK, so this build uses strength weapons combined with LW effectively. For beginners, I honestly recommend a regular Curse Weapon strength build because it is more straight forward but for the rest this build can really pack a punch and surprise. Attributes: In a build with this much strength, you can use any big weapon you like but I listed those two because they are the ones that benefit the most from LW. You can always take out Dragon Smasher or a GAxe when LW is gone and you dont think you will get an opportunity to get if back on. No point in Great sword against Dragon Bone Smasher unless you cannot handle the weight. For me, there really are only 2 ways this build can go, 1 is claymore, and the other is guillotine ax. Claymore Yes, you can even use moon weapons as a back up but i would advice against it. This build works best for hosting, because you cast second chance, and then you get rid of the talisman, and equip a secondary weapon. This way you can carry Mr Clay and Mrs Guilly. Or if you really insist, Gaxe or DBS but like I said, for that use a regular STR build. This build is as clean as it gets, it does not require glitches or exploits. No cracked talisman and no de-leveling. As for progression, you should be able to get the few items required here and in the order it pleases you. Pump vit and endurance at first and then add the rest, this way things are easy with crescent falcion right at the start. Alright, that is all, hope you like it and would appreciate some feedback because I probably missed something. |
Warden
why are some things bolded? sorry about that
This is a solid LW Strength build. However, it should be mentioned that unless you're up against a build with Warding, a CW Strength build would perform better. The only possible exceptions are smaller Strength weapons, like you mentioned, though their damage still might suffer because of the split damage type.
Just thought it should be mentioned. But still, +1.
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thanks for feedback Nick. Yes as we both know, for weapons such as DBS, Gaxe and Gs, a curse build is better, no doubt but for these two awesome weapons, its pretty close.
Here are my ARs with exactly those stats (2 handed with LW):
Guillotine Axe:533
Claymore: 593
Great Axe: 675
Of course there are modifiers like CT and soul form with foe/friend rings.
To the guillotine in body form add 15% from master's ring, so its really this guy that shines. Looking at the damages, yes Gaxe is stronger but the other two swing so much faster, stun lock and waste less stamina.
Jesus, I had a +3 and now a +2, why would anybody give a negative?
I just gave a +1, so its back to +3.
Merry Christmas :)
Haha thanks man
Your best bet with a LW strength build will be the DBS, the great axe (or even the MC), and the Knight's sword because it has a quick moveset. With small weapons, you split the damage and will do far less than you think you should, so beware. The Claymore is okay, but it is quite slow, which mitigates the point. The DBS has high enough output that you should break SC (or close to it) with a single hit.
Sorry sir, but that is absolutely wrong. On the contrary, this build will perform the worst with the weapons that swing slowest, do most damage and consume more stamina (DBS and Gaxe). Since LW adds the same damage to all weapons, you are better off with the ones that swing fastest and consume less stamina. That is it. For the big weapons, cursing is better. You talk about splitting damage but since the added magic damage is the same for a guillotine axe than for a DBS, the magic damage they will do will be the same. Do some research on LW vs Cursing or experience it yourself. As for the MC, no, it will be better off with str weapons because the build is not tailored for it. The best for this build are guillotine axe, and claymore. Knight sword too but its inferior to guilly.
The GuillAxe is good, but it relies heavily on stunlock combos. You may have missed my point: yes, the bigger weapons are better with curse weapon, but i was thinking more along the lines of what you have to use. the split damage takes a lot away from your attack power, which is why i suggested a larger weapon. You have decent stats, why NOT try using the MC? it already deals magical damage and scales with strength, so it will complement the effect of light weapon and probably hit pretty hard compared to most of the weapons in your arsenal. Yes, it won't hit as hard as a build that is specialized for it and definitely won't deal as much physical damage as a GrAxe, but it will definitely add some potency to your weapon enchantment (which is much more strategic than simply forcing a magical effect onto a purely physical weapon). It should be noted that AR is not equal to your damage output. Take moon weapons for example: a moon uchi with 30 mag has about 380 AR, but the hiltless has ~350 with 50 dex. Against normal builds, the uncursed hiltless deals more damage than the moon uchi, even though the AR is 30 points lower. Research the actual damage output with each weapon and share that in the build description.
As i said, and you said again, MC will do decent damage here but will not be as good as a build made for it. That said, if you want to use MC make a build for it. This is for guillotine axe and claymore mainly and i guess mirdan hammer too but i dislike it. Yes you can use other weapons as back ups but only as that. The damage on these is close to cursed weapon one, always a 10% lower or so. But if one handed, they will do the same or more damage with LW. Big weapons, I repeat are not good here, curse them, period and no argument. Dont quote me saying I have to research because all this is after research and I clearly say in build use small weapons because big ones will be weaker. Not trying to be rude with you, sir, but either you have not read it all or you have not enough experience in the game yet. As for damage output with LW it varies a lot depending on armor of opponent, DSS and faith and mage builds.
I read the build, i understand. This is a good all-rounder for damage output because you eliminate the usefulness of warding and high-hitres shields. What i meant for research was a range of damage values you often see. I'd imagine you're often between 400 and 700 damage for the claymore, depending on who you're fighting. Some AR values would be nice though ^_^ I think you gain ~240 magical AR from LW. But you are right that the larger weapons are going to benefit way more from CW, no argument there. My personal preference is for heavy weapons because i just love to smash things ^_^ Thanks for the comment btw!
Ok ill post some numbers. Did these some time ago so I hope they are accurate. Ill give a range to them.
2 handed claymore LW body form 580-630 AR!
2 handed guillo LW body form 510-560 AR!
Of course those are severely punished by split damage so you dont get that damage. You will crack SC of phantoms with 2-3 hits from claymore and 3-5 with guilly. For hosts, 1 or 2 swings more from clay and 2 or 3 from guillo.
Oh Astrichthyes, i posted those values but the real ones were already posted up there, so check them out.
WOW from +3 to +1 guys, way to hate