Build summary | highly effective build for two handing weapons |
Recommended starting class(es) | Temple knight |
Recommended Soul Level | 125 |
Recommended stats (Leave at default (**) if not raised) |
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Vitality | 50 |
Will/Intelligence | 11 |
Endurance | 35 |
Strength | 34 |
Dexterity | 46 |
Magic | 6 |
Faith | 16 |
Luck | 7 |
Recommended equipment |
All Quality weapons you desire. As for rings, i would go with: (soul form) cling and foe's/friend's depending if going as blue or black phantom. |
Recommended spells/miracles |
second chance ( must use coronet and silver catalyst ) This build is non- light weapon or cursed weapon buffed. |
Gameplay tips and progression |
I know there's been lots of Quality builds done in so many ways and LOL'd qualities, but this build would be more all around doing out-put high damage 2 handing weapons for pounding great axes or swiping the great sword, hitting home runs xD. The other great part about it is that you don't have to down size your endurance much, you get the 35 endurance to meet some effective melee and you'll have the 50 vit to maybe survive some cursed/LW buffs, so then you wont have to shave off points from there. If you're familiar with streg and faith builds you'll be more than happy with this one. The plus and gain of all, you'll get to use every single weapon that a faith and streg can't have. Another big tip, if you're not all ok on 2h these weapons you could always get ur dex (sharp) weapons handy just in case you want to mix it up and control your AR. exp: 2h quality uchi vs 2h sharp uchi= quality wins/ 1h quality uchi vs 1h sharp uchi= sharp uchi wins Note: Penetrator sword/Meat Cleaver, does decent dmg w/ this build -SWS- A little preview of the build ( MH for the win) xD |
Quality build
Yeah you basically took the quality build and got rid of CW since it isnt so many anymore.
This way you keep the 50 str you missed in the regular quality one and still keep the high dex and str. Pretty neat.
The only thing i dont like is having to use coronet and silver catalyst for sc. Yes i understand that those are some 4 points you can spend on dex and str but its just not right changing equipment before every fight.
Nonetheless good build. +1 here
yes, exactly, there's that down size in time for swaping the coronet and silver cat like you say, but it is worth it =D. I wouldn't suggest this build for vading or dropin random reds, do to that swap, maybe more like stritcly pvp w/ a good neutral host that actually knows what they're doing =P xD.
Yeah, oh btw I said ¨This way you keep the 50 str you missed in the regular quality¨ but i meant vit not str but u probably figured it out. And with these stats and no cursing, try the spiked shield +10, a bit better than the sharp 5 for dex builds.
I've investigated Penetrating Sword with pumped dex and found that it's particularly weak… The only method it can effectively be used is /w LW & magic stat at 30. I don't see why you chose to go for additional base damage instead of CW? Are you finding people are outliving your buff or is it that you disapprove of the cracked ToB CW glitch?
Yes it is weak, and yes the only way to give it that bump to actually do some dmg would be LW, and while speaking of it, i do have a pen sword w/ 30 30 and it does wonders. i found out that when you have these stats 34streg 46dex and using a pen which gives you E/A for streg and dex, you get some beauty hits on it w/ sws, it's surprisingly decent.
About having that extra over kill c/w thing it's ok, i wouldn't mind having it on this one, but i would totally just screw up this build, it just suits me as is. Having cw on this kinda build will just deny having those extra points in streg,dex. Having quality builds are really hard to keep do to stat points all over the place or just ignoring vit or end.
A good solid build for a cw would be a dex or streg imo, on a quality build would be not so much and add-on, (if you catch my drift)
In the other hand, you can see Q builds as over-killing-machines, that's when you bring out the vector invader Q toon. The vector Q toon is pretty damn sweet if you ask me, but the thing is that, is a tad over the limit of a basic SL that would be nice to vade with ( which is why i think vec only blues) and the down size on it .. is the endurance that vec carries(20-25) which is really hard to juggle with. FYI Vec is pretty damn good not to drain his stam…. two-handing a Q uchi cursed ..pffft!.. run r1 pfft!.. adios!
I like your build digitals.
My quality build I've been using now for awhile is at SL 140 is
Strength 40, Dex 48, endurance 36, vit-45(only semi-con at timesl as host) ,
Because I'm getting used to using SWS and BTupr instead of curse, you're idea of taking int to 11 would give me more points to put towards vit.
+1 for me.
thanks much, helponway
@helponway: 34 strength and 50 dex amps your AR to the max in 2 hands and saves you 4 soul levels. It's exactly how i made my quality build. 348 AR on the uchi is insane because you almost match the hiltless with 50 dex.
@Digitals85: I like the overall concept of this design, but it's kind of lame because you'll have to wait for their buff to wear off before you can safely attack them. They'll severely outdamage you until then.
@ Astrichthyes: the main concept of this build is to effectively use all weapons (in the highest vit, endurance manner, and higher Q essentials possible and having it at soul level cap decent enough lol and not over 125) and … this is not to over power other builds.
if you know how to roll, dodge, parry, roll bs… YOU'LL BE FINE.
The thing with this quality build that I like versus basic cookie cutter dex/strength is it's variety of weapons you can use together while still dealing great damage.
I know many disagree with this idea, but I've actually use LSOS in my quality build. It is very very underated. The highest base damage I believe at 170 than all other weapons.
Although it can not be buffed, it still nevertheless swings fast, and is hard to backstab someone using it. It's bacstab damgae itself is nothing to be thrilled with, but than again, I don't use it to backstab with:)
@Astrichthyes-Reason I use 40 strength rather than 34, is simply because I am one to use one handed, two handed combo's with both dex based and strength based quality weapons.
I know this is a late posting, but in trying out various quality builds, one I'm currently using htat is quite interesting is the NR/quality.
Here are the stats I'm using at SL125-
Vit-45
Int-18
Endurance-32
Dex-40
Strength-34
Luck-Def
Magic-12(NR)
Faith-16
I use curse, black turp, SWS for quality. Once buff runs out, have NR for backup. This setup is great because against warders, mags', the NR destroys them. Curse with even quality(not as high as could be stat wise, but still does great damage) (Bturp, SWS has over 400+in damage using most quality weapons)
Overall, I like this build with NR because of the variety of both crushing and sharp upgraded weapons you can use along with the NR.
Vit is a bit low, especially when using in phantom form, which I recommend as the NR with foe's, is much more powerful in soul form as blue or red.
However, a build like the one you did above as well as any kind of quality should be used by players who honestly understand the mechanics of the game, setups, various weapons, how to conserve stamina,etc…
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