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		<title>World 5 -- Valley of Defilement (new posts)</title>
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				<title>READ ME: New Forums Are Open: READ ME: New Forums Are Open</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 23 May 2010 15:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>Stooge</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>431994</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <h2><span><em><strong>New Forums Are Open</strong></em></span></h2> <p><strong><span style="color: red">Old forums will remain online and you may post (<span style="text-decoration: underline;">but not create new threads</span>) until Monday, May 24th at 5:00PM EDT.</span></strong> After the old forums will be set to archive mode and you can no longer post.</p> <p>Well, I have been working on this for quite a while now, and between real life and work it did not progress as fast as I had hoped.</p> <p>As many of you are aware the forums here on Wikidot leave a lot to be &#8230; desired. Wikidot will be the first one to tell you that they are not designed, nor intended, to host forums. So, I have opened a new location where we can have a fully featured (and for most of you familiar) messaging board. Registration is quick and painless.</p> <p>The moderators of the forums and I have been testing things out and tweaking issues that we find. However, we are sure there will be some things we have missed. Please let us know of any issues you encounter, and we will address them as soon as possible.</p> <p><strong>Make sure you read the rules from the start, because you will be held accountable for your actions</strong>. Ignorance is no excuse. The rules are posted at the top of every single forum.</p> <p>Thanks, and enjoy.</p> <p><a href="http://forums.demonssouls.info" target="_blank">http://forums.demonssouls.info</a></p> 
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				<title>5-3 boss: Re: 5-3 boss</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 14 May 2010 05:34:21 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>X-cept 7</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>475485</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>hit them with a arrow to lure them and then beat there heads in</p> 
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				<title>5-1 Giant Goblins: Re: 5-1 Giant Goblins</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 11 May 2010 15:56:46 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>ok thanks, i'll try the blocking 2h sword method.</p> 
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				<title>World 5-2: Re: World 5-2</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 20:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>Benjamin_Draco</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>470283</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>lol yep, that is a good way to rid of those lard bellied giants, but I just equip adjudicator shield+5 so I don't need to use lotus to keep poison from killing me. As for the level, I hate it but absolutely love it because its a truly sinister and creepy level, makes you feel so alone like as if you will die any second. More levels in games such as this should be in it(I do like the castle like environment in 1-x, 2-x, 3-x and 4-x, but make it more SCARY).</p> 
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				<title>World 5-2: Re: World 5-2</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 20:34:40 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>How to beat those 2 Giant Goblins between the Slug nest and the Ramp to the Filthy Woman Vendor&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;SIMPLE. In this Game &#8230;you must use your environment to your best advantage&#8230;.</p> <p>Case in Point:</p> <p>If you notice as you walk on these liltle pieces of dry land past the nest of slugs&#8230;..there are scafolding or beams of wood that is holding the bridge up that hugs the side of the mountain&#8230;&#8230;.stand between these last to beams of wood the flank your R/L hands&#8230;..Shoot and arrow at one of the goblins&#8230;let one come out after you&#8230;&#8230;as he approach&#8230;..run on the outside of the beams into the water&#8230;..now remember to have your Lotus handy because you will be standing in the swamp for a while&#8230;..the Giant will try to hit you with his club&#8230;but he cant because the beams are between you and his swing&#8230;&#8230;.unload on his ass until he try to run around the beam&#8230;at which time you run back on to the other side&#8230;&#8230;.</p> <p>its like playing ring around the rosey&#8230;&#8230;..do this and in no time you will have both Giants dead within 10min&#8230;&#8230;</p> 
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				<title>5-1 Giant Goblins: Re: 5-1 Giant Goblins</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 06 May 2010 16:49:05 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>To get my hp&lt;30%, I usually get an enemy at the beginning of the level to fight me 1 on 1, and 2 hand my sword. If they have a strong attack that depletes a lot of health, I'll block with the sword to reduce it slightly. If they have a weak attack, I just let them hit me.</p> <p>Once you're just above 30%, kill the enemy and switch to makoto to drain the rest, or if their attacks put you too far below 30%, eat cresent grass until the effect goes away, and switch to makoto to just get it back.</p> 
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				<title>5-1 Giant Goblins: Re: 5-1 Giant Goblins</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 06 May 2010 08:37:01 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>lol at waving to him as he falls.<br /> I agree, there are numerous other ways to get them as a mage.<br /> Slightly off-topic but is there a trick to getting your health to 30% real quick? I've used Makoto but it is slow and I lose patience.</p> 
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				<title>World 5-2: Re: World 5-2</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 06 May 2010 04:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>I fight them out of a masochistic need to see if I can actually kill the two of them without sniping yet.</p> <p>There answer most often comes back as a resounding, &quot;NO YOU CAN'T YOU STUPID FOOL!&quot;</p> 
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				<title>5-1 Giant Goblins: Re: 5-1 Giant Goblins</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 06 May 2010 04:35:31 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>I just hypermode snipe em to death if my character is either a hybird build (no specialization) or a dex build. other way with a mage is hypermode and firespray.</p> 
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				<title>5-1 Giant Goblins: Re: 5-1 Giant Goblins</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 05 May 2010 19:18:08 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>haha lol, wave as he falls xD, I lure the giant goblin near the merchant as well to shoot him from the ledges so I don't get my head bashed in, but I never thought of using the 2 smaller goblins to block the 2nd giant goblin, Ill try that out instead of hit 'n run tactic.</p> 
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				<title>5-1 Giant Goblins: Re: 5-1 Giant Goblins</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 05 May 2010 14:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>1st Goblin: tried this my first playthrough and ended up killing the merchant :(<br /> I've since developed a love for powerpushing him off the walkway and into the abyss, you can even wave goodbye as he goes ;-).</p> 
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				<title>5-1 Giant Goblins: 5-1 Giant Goblins</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 05 May 2010 12:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>If you are not in Pure World tendency there are 2, and they can both be taken out easily without damage to you. These strategies may be already known so I apologise if it's already been said.</p> <p><strong>1st Giant Goblin (at end of path after falling rocks)</strong><br /> Lure it out and back up path, climbing back to near vendor. Giant Goblin cannot climb the step near the vendor. Arrow/pole it to death.</p> <p><strong>2nd Giant Goblin (near boss fog at end of rope bridge)</strong><br /> There are 2 small goblins in front of it. Wear thief ring and shoot arrows at the Giabt Goblin behind them. Do not shoot the ones in front. Giant will be blocked by the others and will be unable to pass.</p> <p>Obviously, they can be taken out without these tactics. But i found that I struggled with them on later NGs (even with Warding on) due to my SL being low.</p> 
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				<title>World 5-2: Re: World 5-2</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 05 May 2010 11:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>There are the 2 (three if you count the BP in PBWT) Giant Goblin depraved incest monsters from beyond the beyond that are a little tricky to get by, even with a Thief's ring. And there isn't that much room to fight them in.</p> 
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				<title>World 5-2: Re: World 5-2</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 05 May 2010 11:48:18 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>I hate this level less than 5-1. At least in 5-2 you can avoid the Giant Goblins if you want to. In 5-1 you have to kill them to get past.</p> 
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				<title>World 5-2: Re: World 5-2</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 05 May 2010 09:35:51 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Haha lol, why not just avoid a fight with those huge goblins? If ya can't beat em down, avoid them. This game maybe punishing, however not all enemies have to be killed.</p> 
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				<title>World 5-2: Re: World 5-2</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 05 May 2010 02:55:58 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>5-2 just never gets better, only worse. In NG+5, stupid giant goblins still whack me when I decide to try and melee them only to try and roll on those deceptive parts of the island<br /> and only get the useless &quot;lunge&quot; motion. Stupid 5-2.</p> 
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				<title>World 5-2: Re: World 5-2</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 05 May 2010 01:37:52 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Lol im the exact opposite</p> <p>I beat 1-1, 1-2<br /> Go to 4-1 get crescent falcion and arducatiors shield</p> <p>Then go straight through 5-1, 5-2, 5-3.<br /> Ive got vinland down pat. I dont even bother shooting maiden with arrows any more.<br /> If you make vinland swing then run in you can get a back stab EVERY time.</p> 
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				<title>Istarelle question my fellow warriors: Re: Istarelle question my fellow warriors</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 04 May 2010 16:29:18 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>If you've played offline and in soul form throughout you should be pure white and the ladder will be there. However, if not you may be 80/90% white and therefore killing the BP in the swamp should get you there.<br /> Remember, if you went online and returned to the Nexus during/after any of the 5-1, 5-2 and 5-3 quests you could have dropped your tendency a little in line with the server average for world 5.<br /> In all honesty, the spear is poor as an offensive weapon. I have an Istarelle+5 but the damage stays the same (upgraded or not). Only the resistances are improved, which are substantial. Useful in world 5 (if you have no lotus or spells) but nowehere else, I'd say.<br /> However, you need it for the Trophy so I can understand you wanting to get it.</p> 
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				<title>Istarelle question my fellow warriors: Re: Istarelle question my fellow warriors</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 04 May 2010 16:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Correct suiciding in nexus does not effect WT. Can you lay down a blue stone at bosses in 5-x and assist others to gain positive WT and get access to the weapon?</p> <p>Edit: Oh I just remebered I had to kill the Meat Cleaver weilding BP in 5-2 to get the right tendancy to get the spear. Be it know that BP owned me many times, so be careful with him and lure em to an island so you can roll around.</p> 
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				<title>5-x Goblins have the most annoying stagger move ever: Re: 5-x Goblins have the most annoying stagger move ever</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 May 2010 19:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>To remove your annoyance, try to anticipate their path towards you and then stay a good distance away before counter attacking them. Or better yet, use a simple shield like the Dark Silver Shield and hold it up and after they attack, use heavy attack and they're dead one slash (at least for my North Regalia). And yes, they're annoying especially in new game plus.</p> 
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