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		<title>Magic &amp; Miracles (new threads)</title>
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				<title>READ ME: New Forums Are Open</title>
				<link>http://demonssouls.wikidot.com/forum/t-243309/read-me:new-forums-are-open</link>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 23 May 2010 15:12:15 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>Stooge</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>431994</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <h2><span><em><strong>New Forums Are Open</strong></em></span></h2> <p><strong><span style="color: red">Old forums will remain online and you may post (<span style="text-decoration: underline;">but not create new threads</span>) until Monday, May 24th at 5:00PM EDT.</span></strong> After the old forums will be set to archive mode and you can no longer post.</p> <p>Well, I have been working on this for quite a while now, and between real life and work it did not progress as fast as I had hoped.</p> <p>As many of you are aware the forums here on Wikidot leave a lot to be &#8230; desired. Wikidot will be the first one to tell you that they are not designed, nor intended, to host forums. So, I have opened a new location where we can have a fully featured (and for most of you familiar) messaging board. Registration is quick and painless.</p> <p>The moderators of the forums and I have been testing things out and tweaking issues that we find. However, we are sure there will be some things we have missed. Please let us know of any issues you encounter, and we will address them as soon as possible.</p> <p><strong>Make sure you read the rules from the start, because you will be held accountable for your actions</strong>. Ignorance is no excuse. The rules are posted at the top of every single forum.</p> <p>Thanks, and enjoy.</p> <p><a href="http://forums.demonssouls.info" target="_blank">http://forums.demonssouls.info</a></p> 
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				<title>Second Chance or Large Sword of Searching?</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 16 May 2010 23:08:57 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Just picked up the Hero Demon's Soul. With a little grinding I could create a Large Sword of Searching, but Second Chance seems to be mandatory for most players. I'm using a mostly magic based character on my first play through, but the sword just seems soooo tempting. Am I just being greedy, and should wait for my NG+ to work on a sword of searching? Thoughts?</p> 
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				<title>False King&#039;s Demon&#039;s Souls</title>
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				<description>What do you think would make a great Spell/Miracle with this soul?</description>
				<pubDate>Sun, 16 May 2010 21:05:18 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>This is just a what if thread. I just wish there was a spell/miracle you could learn with the False King's soul. I'd want to see a buff for your weapon that let's you shoot those air waves like the False King does.</p> <p>So what would your version be?</p> 
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				<title>Light Vs. Curse Weapon</title>
				<link>http://demonssouls.wikidot.com/forum/t-241832/light-vs-curse-weapon</link>
				<description>Discussion about Light Weapon vs. Curse Weapon for new players like me</description>
				<pubDate>Sun, 16 May 2010 04:15:18 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>So the short question is which is better?</p> <p>I assume it depends on whether your character is built for physical damage or magical damage. I'm trying to get a BBS build together and I'm having a hard time figuring out which of the two spells I should get since I haven't had any experience with either of them. Right now my damage stats are</p> <p>Str: 18 (I'm going to level this down and stick with DSS) <span style="text-decoration: line-through;">22 (For PFS once I grab it)</span><br /> Dex: 18<br /> Mag: 18<br /> Will: 18</p> <p>I apologize for not having my complete build, but I don't remember everything off the top of my head at the moment. Any feedback related to my build, or any general comments bout LW vs. CW would be greatly appreciated. : ) Thanks in advance.</p> 
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				<title>Second Chance</title>
				<link>http://demonssouls.wikidot.com/forum/t-241561/second-chance</link>
				<description>How long is it in effect?</description>
				<pubDate>Fri, 14 May 2010 15:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Ok, I just wonder if second chance is in effect until you are killed or does anything else negate it? I would of course expect it to be gone when you return to the nexus (duh), but I have just started to use it. I was up against BP Satsuki and he 1-hit killed me and I didn't revive even with second chance I thought in effect. I was trying to melee him for the kill. Does casting a spell-I used Poison Cloud to help reduce his HP-make it quit working or does it have a limited time period?</p> 
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				<title>Soul Thirst</title>
				<link>http://demonssouls.wikidot.com/forum/t-241415/soul-thirst</link>
				<description>I need help</description>
				<pubDate>Thu, 13 May 2010 21:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>So i got Souls Thirst recently and i tried to use it on the mind flayers from 3-3 (back tracking) and it didn't work on it.</p> <p>Help ?</p> 
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				<title>Firestorm vs fireball vs gods wrath</title>
				<link>http://demonssouls.wikidot.com/forum/t-240933/firestorm-vs-fireball-vs-gods-wrath</link>
				<description>Need to know the pros and cons of all the spells. I am asking for the PVE point of view.</description>
				<pubDate>Tue, 11 May 2010 13:19:44 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>I just got my dragon god demon soul and really wondering which ones should I go for, I alr released sage, yuria and st urbain, so really stuck in a dilemma, well trilemma actually in choosing the spells.</p> <p>I am playing a BBS build with magic mixed in. My target is about 30 magic at slvl 120, faith is 16. So, I know damage wise firestorm and fireball will be better than god's wrath. ( I am assuming the spells scales correspondingly to mag and faith), but I kinda read a bit, and people say gods wrath is more reliable in hitting enemies as compared to firestorm.</p> <p>Well, I think I should mention the main reason why I want the spell, which is farming the 2-2 gecko nest. I have left it virtually untouched, and I just finished world 2 as well and its in PWWT currently. My plan is to finish up all the white world events and reset the world to pure black and start farming the nest. Thats the only reason I will be using this spell I think since I only got 100+ mp, and its good enough for one cast only.</p> <p>So, my main question is in farming the gecko's nest at 2-2, which spell is best for me.</p> <p>And I would really appreciate it if theres any other pros and cons of the spells that I should know about with regards to PVE. Thanks.</p> 
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				<title>Soulsucker Question</title>
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				<description>Noob question from a SL 197 about the spell</description>
				<pubDate>Thu, 06 May 2010 20:46:40 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Another question about Soulsucker&#8230;does anyone know why when you kill something with it you get the souls for the kill in two separate amounts? e.g. on soul farming runs in 4-2 (NG++, PBWT natch) when I kill the BP dual katana skeleton with soul sucker I get about 60k souls total, but it doesn't come all at once. it first shows about 22k when i hear the sound effect that the enemy has died, then when the skeleton's body starts to melt away and the item drop starts to show up the soul total increases to 60k. What's the deal with this? (I'm glad I get the souls, but does anyone know why they come in two bunches? I almost threw my controller the first time I saw only 22k, as I had been getting 49k killing the enemy with fireballs, only to be really pleased when I saw the overall total). Is that what is meant by the &quot;awards double souls?&quot;</p> 
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				<title>Anti-magic</title>
				<link>http://demonssouls.wikidot.com/forum/t-239776/anti-magic</link>
				<description>Does it work against Fool&#039;s Idol</description>
				<pubDate>Wed, 05 May 2010 19:49:05 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>I really like to use Anti-magic in 3-1, and I'm on NG+. Does Anti-magic work against Fool's Idol? I know it would wipe out my magic, but I do have some good weapons to use against her. The character I'm using now is more magic and faith based. I understand she can be a real test in NG+ and I messed up first time around for PWWT, so I'd really like to get her.</p> <p>It looks like it does from what I read in the wiki, but has anyone used it?</p> 
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				<title>Does anyone use Demon&#039;s Prank?</title>
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				<description>Is it any good?</description>
				<pubDate>Wed, 05 May 2010 02:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>I was just wondering how many people use Demon's Prank, if it's any good, and if you use it, what do you use it for?</p> 
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				<title>to spell or not to spell</title>
				<link>http://demonssouls.wikidot.com/forum/t-239173/to-spell-or-not-to-spell</link>
				<description>that is the question for a SL 55 temple knight</description>
				<pubDate>Tue, 04 May 2010 16:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>so im questioning if it is worth it to use demon souls for spells like firestorm and poison cloud for a melee based temple knight first play through. my int is 18 and my magic is i think 10 or 12, i really dont have plans to lvl them more. i took intel to 18 for 3 spell slots 2 for warding and 1 for a ranged soul something (the lowbie spell) and i had to lvl magic to 10 to even talk to freke haha.</p> <p>so far the only problem i have had was flamelurker (i hate that bastard) otherwise rest of game has been extemely solid. this game is easily top 5 for me. i do plan to take him as far as i can no real plans to pvp at 120 maybe a little but i will take him further.</p> <p>im kinda min/maxer when it comes to games like this i would rather stop lvling magic all to gether and just keep pumping str/vit/end/dex/faith/luck/intel/magic but i hear firestorm can be pretty nice if used in the right hands.</p> <p>so basically with a low magic/intel score do the higher end spells work decent enough or should i turn the souls in for more souls than i can think of?</p> <p>thanks in advance</p> <p>cheers!</p> 
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				<title>Can&#039;t Learn Recovery</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 04 May 2010 02:01:52 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>Angel of Mons</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>478382</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>So, I beat the game once and I'm going through a second playthrough with the same character. I just killed my first Primeval Demon (the one in 2-1), but when I returned to the Nexus to talk to St. Urbain, he still won't offer to teach me Recovery. All it says is &quot;there's nothing left to learn&quot; or whatever.</p> <p>It's the only miracle I have left to learn, and I already have the 3 colorless demon's souls. When I first realized this I thought maybe I had to kill the Armor Spider as well, since I didn't clear the level at first, but that didn't help. All I can think of is maybe since the Primeval Demon didn't drop a Colorless demon soul than I have to try and kill another one. I think to this point the Colorless souls I have came through trading, but I thought all I had to do was kill a Primeval, regardless of what it dropped. Thoughts? Suggestions?</p> <p>I hope I'm wrong because I'd hate to be stuck going through the motions of finding another Primeval only for it not to drop a CDS again.</p> 
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				<title>Gods Wrath</title>
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				<description>Really sucks.</description>
				<pubDate>Mon, 03 May 2010 15:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>So I used a demons soul and upped my stats (im a faith build anyway but I was using second chance and evac.) to use this miracle. Unfortunately, it's garbage. Am I missing the point here? It seems like there's no AOE damage unless I target someone, and even then only they take damage. Second, it takes forever to cast and I get hit and interrupted. What am I doing wrong?</p> 
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				<title>Poison&gt;Death Cloud?</title>
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				<description>Boss Battles</description>
				<pubDate>Sun, 02 May 2010 22:50:34 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>I've never used either one but was just curious. Alot of easy strategies for boss battles is to just cast Poison Cloud and wait. Doesn't Death Cloud do more damage? Wouldn't it be better, or does it make the bosses aggro you instead of standing there choking to death?</p> 
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				<title>acid cloud question</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 30 Apr 2010 09:00:26 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>Miamori</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>476583</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>if you hit someone with an acid cloud, do their things break right away or does the durability of their items go down by a certain amount?</p> 
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				<title>Subdue Soul Miracle</title>
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				<description>Still don&#039;t understand it.....</description>
				<pubDate>Wed, 28 Apr 2010 16:51:13 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Sorry Folks&#8230;.</p> <p>But I just don't get exactly what this miracle does for me. I've read around and I'm still in two minds about it. Does it make it more difficult for Black Phantoms to invade my world, or does it make it more difficult for them to find me when they get in, if so..how much can they actually see of me or my movements if I cast this?</p> <p>Thanks for your time guys&#8230;.</p> 
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				<title>No broken &quot;bonus&quot; for cursed weapon</title>
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				<description>Health depletion same for broken catalyst</description>
				<pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2010 20:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>I'm attempting to cast Cursed Weapon with a broken Talisman of Beasts but my health depletion remains at 1% per second (instead of 1 HP per second as the wiki claims). I've also tried a broken Silver Catalyst.</p> <p>Did they change this for the NA version?</p> <p>-Ulapham</p> 
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				<title>Homing soul arrow question.</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2010 00:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Ok so i have seen stealth builds work very well.</p> <p>I know that homing soul arrow is hard to always get a hit.</p> <p>So say you had an assassin build and you had homing soul arrow. If you cast cloak then cast homing soul arrow and you were out of sight range of the other player&#8230; Would the homing soul arrow be seen? Like if you had no aruas and using the thief's ring would you see 3 homing soul arrow bolts floating but not see the player?</p> <p>Or does it conceal the homing soul arrows?</p> 
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				<title>Light Weapon</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2010 12:51:20 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Not enchant weapon.</p> <p>So I am pretty much an all melee build. However I did level up intelligence to 24 so I could have the four magic slots so I could have warding, soul ray and poison cloud. But I'm starting to use bows for range intsead of soul ray and I don't need poison cloud anymore. So I was looking at spells that take up two slots and I saw light weapon but I just wantd to ask if this spell would still be useful even with 12 magic.</p> <p>And I know it was a waste to level up Int on a melee character. I wasn't thinking&#8230;. I wish you could downgrade things ;_;<br /> Pop a meltstone in your mouth or something.</p> 
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				<title>Faith vs Firestorm</title>
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				<description>How much Faith do you need to survive a Firestorm cast?</description>
				<pubDate>Sun, 11 Apr 2010 05:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>I've seen some go down with one cast while other's it might take off only 1/4 of their health. How high a Faith stat do you need to survive a Firestorm hit?</p> 
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