North America (US) Version Differences / Discussion

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Actions, Menus, Commands - NA renaming

The Young One 05 Jun 2010 20:12

I have started renaming, on the individual weapon pages and the weapon-key pages, but ran into some issues:
(there are a lot of these, so I'd rather do everything on each page in one go)

1. Stats Needed & Stat Bonuses will get broken up, in the left column of the Key table, if they are the longest words (looks crap).
   Should I go with StatsNeeded & StatBonuses instead?
2. Damage Reduction % & Guard Break Reduction - They are both very long, what about DamageRed% & GuardBreak / GBR ?

I need some guidance! :)

Re: Actions, Menus, Commands - NA renaming

GullFire 07 Jun 2010 16:21

Couple of thoughts:

1. Stats Needed & Stat Bonuses - I've added a row at the bottom of the Key page which sets the max character length. This stops the longest phrase from getting split. I set the text to white to camouflage it. Bit of a hack, but it looks alright. I'm sure there's a better way.

2. Damage Reduction % & Guard Break Reduction - I think the full phrases look OK with line breaks in the right place. Should be OK on the page as long as any images remain under 300px wide.

I've left some examples in the sandbox. Needs a bit more twiddling.
Hope this helps

Re: Actions, Menus, Commands - NA renaming

The Young One 07 Jun 2010 17:51

I'll go with these for now, the key is easily fixed anyway. I was thinking about adding some css ( style="width:200px" ) to lock the column width, but I'm not sure if this will give different results for different resolutions or when scaling the page. Been a while since I worked with web design, so I'm a bit rusty on both css and html.

Re: Actions, Menus, Commands - NA renaming

GullFire 07 Jun 2010 19:34

Yeah, I'm the same on the web side.
Quite happy to do the donkey work though : )

Re: Actions, Menus, Commands - NA renaming

The Young One 07 Jun 2010 20:07

Ok, they should be updated.
I did not touch the Weapon overview pages (looks fine) or any Shield pages (they all need some fixes).
Dur. - Wt. / Durability - Weight, don't know if they need changing (in the key), as they are pretty self-explanatory.

/edit: didn't update key pages either

Last edited on 07 Jun 2010 20:10 by The Young One Show more

Re: Actions, Menus, Commands - NA renaming

The Young One 11 Jun 2010 23:17

I think all shield pages are up to date, those were not as fun as the others…

Some key pages (if not all) are still undone.
And about "Spec. Effect -> Special Effects", is it worth doing?
/edit:
I've skimmed through the pages, and most special effects (plague, poison, bleeding) are just noted under "Damage" type.
Other special effects (poison resistance, heatlh regen etc) are mostly described under "Note" or "Special Note".

Last edited on 12 Jun 2010 11:29 by The Young One Show more

Re: Actions, Menus, Commands - NA renaming

GullFire 14 Jun 2010 22:09

I have gone ahead and changed the included key pages to match the na terms.
I think perhaps these pages need to pull down their own css to sort the term splitting problem.
I do not want to meddle with stuff I don't understand though.

Re: Actions, Menus, Commands - NA renaming

The Young One 14 Jun 2010 22:57

I added "width:160px" to the css of the first cell of the include-shield page, as a test, so it adjusts the left column of the table.
I'm not sure if this translates across different browsers, but it looks fine in firefox. Well, at least until i zoom up the font size, then it falls back to how it was (don't think this is a problem).

[[cell style="text-align:right; vertical-align:top;padding-right:0.8em;width:160px"]] **Name:** [[/cell]]

Doing just one cell should be enough, since it translates across the table.

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Re: Actions, Menus, Commands - NA renaming

The Young One 22 Jun 2010 14:14

Just learned something new, it's possible to infuse html into ordinary text as well.

 Damage@<&nbsp;>@Reduction@<&nbsp;>@%:

gives:

Damage Reduction %:

So the non-broken-space should prevent the phrase from breaking up.

dialogue changes

The Young One 27 Jul 2010 17:35

I may be wrong about these, but I'll put them here anyway:

• Some Filthy Woman dialogue from 5-2 seems to have been cut in the Atlus version of the game. The lines: "All the men worship her like she's the Virgin Mary. The same men who would snatch my child away from me!", probably because it's a reference to christianity, and not some made up religion like the rest of the game.

• Some of the Monumentals texted dialogue during the game intro, just before starting the Tutorial, is changed/cut. The lines "Brave souls, who fears not death. I shall guide you to the Nexus. So that you may lull the Old One back to slumber." is changed to "Brave souls, who fears not death. I shall guide you…" in the Atlus version. The dialogue itself is the same in both versions, but the asian version included the "to the Nexus" part for some reason.

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