Changes I'd Like to See in DS 2 (if they make it)

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Changes I'd Like to See in DS 2 (if they make it)

mrjinglesusa 23 Apr 2010 17:12

Autosave

1) Autosaves when you drop an item, just like when you pick up an item (would eliminate "duping")

2) Autosaves when you enter Boss Fog gate (would eliminate having to complete entire level again just to get to Boss if you die in Boss fight). Alternatively, have at least an autosave at the halfway point of the level.

Trophies

1) EVERY Demon Soul is used for THREE things: one spell, one miracle, one weapon. Have to COMPELETLY do NG, NG+, and NG++ to get everything. Requiring 4 playthroughs is ridiculous and gets BORING.

2) New Trophies:

a) Assist 100 players as Blue Phantom in Boss fight. Must beat Boss to get trophy. Encourages online play

b) Kill 100 Black Phantom invaders. Encourages online play

c) Obtain Stat Level of at least 50 in every stat (does not need to be on same character). Encourages use of different skills/play styles

d) Complete game without dying (possible to "glitch" by quitting when you die though)

e) 100 kills with each weapon type (bow/crossbow, axe, blunt/fist, spear/pole, Asian sword, Piercing sword, Straight Sword) - 7 different trophies. Encourages use of different weapons/play styles

These new trophies would make obtaining Platinum more challenging because they are based more on skill and diversity than merely on time spent playing the game.

Ores

Geckos and enemies who drop ores will drop at equal average rates - 60% Shards, 25% Chunks, 5% Pures, and 10% no drop. Rates based on average over 200 kills of same enemy. This is at neutral WT. At PBWT, the rates would be 30% Shards, 60% Chunks, and 10% Pures. At PWWT, the rates are 75% Shards, 10% Chunks, and 15% no drop. Farming sucks in this game - make it a little easier and less time consuming to obtain ores you need to upgrade weapons. Along with this change however, there are limited numbers of Pures available per playthrough. Say two. Once you get two pures of one ore in your playthrough, the drop rates adjust to the PWWT tendency drop rate for the rest of that playthrough.

Any other ideas of fixes/changes you'd like to see if they make a DS 2? Not new enemies/weapons/etc. since there are already threads on those things.

Re: Changes I'd Like to See in DS 2 (if they make it)

Lightning_Count- 23 Apr 2010 18:50

No autosave. The whole point of Demon's Souls is that it's hard; that's why it's fun. Why make it easier? And killing 100 BP invaders will encourage spawn camping, as well as summon jumping red soul signs.

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Re: Changes I'd Like to See in DS 2 (if they make it)

Benjamin_Draco 23 Apr 2010 19:08

lol well if there was no auto-saving, would there be manual saving so ppl can save whenever they want to eh(provided ur in a safe spot to do so)? Actually, y not make it so u have to go to an npc to save? so that would be something different from auto and manual saving. hmm, otherwise not much of anymore changes id like to see if there was a DS2, but perhaps some more choices of weapons, armor(I got soooo disappointed when I couldn't get certain armors in DS like that badass armor of Penetrator) and perhaps a little more to storyline than just fighting and killing. And I want to see the bosses be harder, I mean cmon ud expect certain bosses in DS to be rlly hard, but most of em weren't(although I admit the giant goblins r like mini-bosses if u get stuck in that poo swamp while it bashes away at u).

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Re: Changes I'd Like to See in DS 2 (if they make it)

mrjinglesusa 23 Apr 2010 19:15

RE: autosaves, it won't make the game any easier. It will only save you time not having to go back and play the entire level over again just to get to a Boss fight again. What about autosaving after entering Boss fog makes it any easier to get there in the first place? The game is hard, yes, but it's also incredibly monotonous and time-consuming having to play the same level over and over and over and over again. This, IMO, doesn't make the game better - it makes it annoying. There are plenty of really good, difficult games that don't require such monotonous gameplay (e.g., Elder Scrolls). The game punishes you enough for rushing through and making stupid mistakes. Dying in a Boss fight shouldn't force you to have to play an entire level over again, since you've already gone through it you should have no problems getting through it again. Compromise: more levels have a short-cut you can activate by making it to the end of the level (like 1-1 and 5-2) so you don't have to go through entire level again unless you want to.

RE: killing 100 BP invaders, people spawn camp (from what I've heard) anyway so not much change there. And you can make it so summoned BPs from Red Eye Stones don't count towards the 100, only random BP invaders count.

Re: Changes I'd Like to See in DS 2 (if they make it)

Benjamin_Draco 23 Apr 2010 19:18

lol lots of ppl hate going online for BP fights, so that would be a useless trophy to quite a few ppl(as well as an idea for aiding 100 blue phantoms). Lots of ppl like to DIY(do it yourself), and I admit I don't like working with others(mostly) because most ppl I went online with in other games(and a few ppl in this 1) were mostly incompetent, didn't think and died in seconds before u could say 'charge'. Not to mention another way to get around aiding a blue phantom is use revival spell on them most likely, so that would be easy to do compared to being bored fighting the bosses.

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Re: Changes I'd Like to See in DS 2 (if they make it)

LegitClaymore 24 Apr 2010 11:30

I like autosave, it should be like borderlands and have save markers…like…like a big sword(similar to the sword sticking out of the archstone) appearing 2 throughout a level

I want bigger maps, and a city full of people to explore(that sounds gross lol) I also want a lobby to meet new people and compatability with a mic

Re: Changes I'd Like to See in DS 2 (if they make it)

Lorim 24 Apr 2010 13:09

I actually like the idea of having some sort of sword to stick in the ground, which can then be used as an archstone. You should only be able to acquire one or two of these per playthrough, and it shouldn't be easy to get. Just like that Checkpoint you get at the end of Final Fantasy VII. This would only be really worth it if the levels would become bigger though. And imo, the maps are actually big enough, it's just that once you actually know them you can run through all of them in like 5 minutes, which makes them look so small. But the first time you go through a map it can take a couple of hours before you even know what way you're going. (if you don't use a map or anything, of course)

I'm against a friendly auto-save function, having to run through the levels again and again is more like a punishment I like to take, because you deserve it for being stupid. You even get more souls everytime you do it. Almost all of the bosses are very accessible in every level after you've unlocked a shortcut here and there, so it's not like you have to go through the ENTIRE level again.

1-1 obvious gate shortcut,
1-2 is a supershort level,
1-3 the gate opens and it's only 2 turns to get to the boss,
2-1 elevator to get the Ed,
2-2 can be almost completely skipped if you take the right path and jump down,
3-1 all the gates open and the arrow statue stops shooting,
3-2 you can just go forward and all the way up the tower once the heart is dropped,
4-1 had that roll-shortcut,
4-2.. ok this one doesn't get shorter but it's not a long level and the boss is super easy,
5-1 same here,
5-2 once the bridge falls you don't even have to do the entire swamp area)

I might have forgotten some things, but once you've actually gone through a level completely it rewards you with these shortcuts and going through them again isn't such a chore anymore.

I would like a city, or a bigger nexus with more to do and more NPC's to talk to. A lobby and mic compatibility would really ruin the feeling of the game. I have never seen a more credible gaming world, and this is because it never really let's the player realize that he IS playing a game. It doesn't use things like lobby's, server lists, non-random co-op, etc.. because they wouldn't feel right in the world of Demon's Souls, imo.

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Re: Changes I'd Like to See in DS 2 (if they make it)

Nintendoblivion 25 Apr 2010 00:26

I would like to see difficulties:
easy - enemies have less health do less damage, but give less souls, easier to get PWWT, map of the course on screen (offline mode only)
normal - same as now
hard - enemies do more damage and have more HP, give more souls, easier to get PBWT, no blue soul signs
each difficulty would only be able to play with each other

more weapon combos, like for dual katanas
larger maps with more variety
random NPCs that help you on the battle field (cower in the face of Black Phantoms)
a well hidden (like requires a random item with no indication in a random spot of a random course) merchant that will buy thing from you in exchange for souls
more mini demon's like the Vanguard that drop their own soul
NG+ adds more enemies in random spots

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Re: Changes I'd Like to See in DS 2 (if they make it)

LegitClaymore 25 Apr 2010 00:28

Dying to the first boss was a horrible experience for me, especially in 3-1, I still find Latria very confusing and it pisses me off that i have tostart all the way from the start.

I always thought DS2 had a great story, so to increase replayability value add in some side quests

Obviously the game needs DLCs

Re: Changes I'd Like to See in DS 2 (if they make it)

Anorack 26 Apr 2010 06:22

I'd like to see the gameplay kept mostly the same in terms of difficulty and autosaves and such.

What I would like to see is more varieties of enemies and improve the totally useless weapons in DS, such as Fist weapons.

I would also like there to be more spells and different kinds of upgradable ores as well as the current ones, maybe ores that can add plague to your weapon.
And ofcourse for them to resolve once and for all, what the heck a shield/weapon Flame Damage Reduction in the stats for the item.

Re: Changes I'd Like to See in DS 2 (if they make it)

Lichschool 29 Apr 2010 02:12

Jousting/mounted combat.

Re: Changes I'd Like to See in DS 2 (if they make it)

The Young One 29 Apr 2010 15:29

Photomode, this game needs it badly.

Re: Changes I'd Like to See in DS 2 (if they make it)

toasTBacon 29 Apr 2010 17:34

An arena component would be cool. Some place that you can fight one-on-one or watch fights, but i'm not sure exactly how that would fit in with the game.

I think chain weapons would be pretty awesome!

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Re: Changes I'd Like to See in DS 2 (if they make it)

Anorack 30 Apr 2010 03:40

Chain weapons would be nice. Come at someone swinging a spiked ball and chain would just be fun to do.

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Rome921 30 Apr 2010 02:22

Omg im thinking yes with the medieval, so yes chain weapons, and also, more diverse magic, here its either weapon buff, self buff, or shoot somethin. I'd like magic like the ones on the other post called "if you could make a spell what would it be"
i love my suggestion Splatter 50 MP - Shoot out a plague baby like a fireball, if it hits , instant dmg, baby dies, if miss, it lands on floor and goes AI on the enemy u locked on
imagine having like 300 MP and 99 OLD SPICE and u just swarm a Black Phantom in Plague babies until they eat his brains, PvP pawnage, you could be a dead baby mage.

Re: Changes I'd Like to See in DS 2 (if they make it)

Rustybug 30 Apr 2010 23:42

I'd like to see characters who's lips move when they talk!

Re: Changes I'd Like to See in DS 2 (if they make it)

Benjamin_Draco 01 May 2010 09:03

Hmm, an arena for pvp battles would do awesomely(with the option of added traps, demons, and to take away certain uses of the players). And we need more uses of magic, it is very good but need more use of it including faith spells. Hmm, not to mention perhaps difficulty levels, like easy, medium, hard, and punishing(but when u complete each playthrough, even if u lower the difficulty, it will get gradually difficult with each new playthrough, no matter what). But a common complaint might be the movement of lips when the npc's talk, make em start flapping instead of being sealed shut. Chain weapons a MUST, not as severe as the weapons in god of war series, but perhaps if it can be done have chain link weapons. Obviously better looking armors with adjustable stats to em(like lowering or raising protection to certain attacks). oo but I'd like to see bets in arena fighting, like u bet a certain weapon and ur opponent bets a certain weapon, if 1 loses, the other keeps his/her own weapon and wins the opponent's weapon(including betting with armor, stat points, etc.). And more variety to starter classes perhaps. And if this DS2 comes out(which it will be years from now if it does), the main thing I want from it is more storyline to it and videos to it and make the levels LONGER.

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Re: Changes I'd Like to See in DS 2 (if they make it)

Anorack 01 May 2010 10:35

Their is a sort of arena system with wagering already in place with red soul signs. They just need to tweak it very minorly to prefect it.
The only tweak I can see for red soul signs is to make blue phantoms/signs dismissed/disappear when a BP from a red sign is summoned.

As for diffculty settings, I kind of liked the fact their is no setting for it and it's just damn hard and if the player can't adapt to it, then too bad for them.

Re: Changes I'd Like to See in DS 2 (if they make it)

Benjamin_Draco 01 May 2010 20:56

Hmm, yh no difficulty system would do fine, but id still like to see betting of items not souls in fights and it would be nice if blue soul signs were dismissed when a BP from a red sign is summoned(plus being able to rid of other blue phantoms and black phantoms so they can't jump and backstab u while u 1v1 with another).

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