Axe Mystic

Summary:

A PvP build focusing on Moon Guillotine Axe looking for insight on the build.

Axe Mystic

Anorack 07 May 2010 23:36

So, here is the build I just thought up.

Starting Class - Royalty
Stats

Vit-40
Int-25
End-40
Str- 20
Dex- 12 (Not Raised)
Mag- 40
Faith- 16
Luck- 7 (Not Raised)

Weapons/Shields

R.Hand 1- Moon Guillotine Axe+5
R. Hand 2 - Moon Mirdan Hammer+5/Crushing Claymore+5

L. Hand 1 - Talisman of Beasts
L. Hand 2 - Baby's Nail/Marion Blade

Spells

Set 1 - Warding and Soul Ray
Set 2 - Cursed Weapon and Soul Ray

Miracles

Second Chance or Anti Magic Field

I am currently in the process of making this build, so, it has yet to be tested for effectiveness in PvP.
Reason I choose Guillotine Axe is just cause I like it.
Crushing Claymore is listed in there purely as a last ditch effort and hope if your Guillotine Axe isn't working, and thats why I have Cursed Weapon in the second spell set.
As for the ring slots, I am not sure what to use, I am between either in Body Form going with Eternal Warriors and Clever Rat's Ring or Graverober's Ring and Clever Rat's.
As a BP it is obviously going to be Foe's Ring and Cling Ring and as a Blue it would be Friend's and Cling.

Anyways, I would like to see other people's input on this build and any suggestions are welcome.

Re: Axe Mystic

Anorack 07 May 2010 23:54

I forgot to include that end soul level is 120, yes, I did the math.

Re: Axe Mystic

Ilkar 08 May 2010 00:19

Okay, I shall commentate as best I can.
Firstly, I really like the idea, but I'm not sure if it works best with those stats.
If you want to play a battlemage using Moon Guillotine Axe, then your best bet is to swap 5 points of End for 5 points of Int and get the extra spellslot.
Personally though…considering you included the Claymore, I'd recommend a strength build. Use Curse Weapon with a Crushing Guillotine Axe and then you can minimise the amount of points you need to spend making your build more hybrid-like and make the most of the 20 Str that you already have to get.
Also, you could use the soulsuck trick to get Poison Cloud and Warding as well, so you don't miss anything in terms of support spells.
In terms of Miracles, stick with SC. AMF just creates lag and will cause you to disconnect around 80% of the time you use it online.

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Re: Axe Mystic

Anorack 08 May 2010 01:00

I was personally leaning towards as Spells and Miracles to go with SC and Warding, just because I really didn't see Crushing working out in this build.

AMF would just be a thought to be used as a counter against Pure Mage builds, but, I think that SC is a greater boost over AMF. It is more versitile and much less laggy.

The last question I have is, what would be best as my second weapon? I might put 1 point into Dex and be able to use a Crescent Uchi, if I remember right, Crescent weapons can be enchanted.

The other thoughts for spells I have rolling around are HSA, Firestorm, Firespray and Ignite. Firestorm is the least likely I'd go for, too obvious of a spell to use in PvP.
Firespray I probably won't use, too weak without a Hypermode. So, by just ruling out right now as I think as I type, I'd be between HSA and Ignite.

Can't Enchant Crescent

RandomVictim 11 May 2010 17:46

As much as I wish it were the opposite, crescent weapons cannot be enchanted.

Re: Axe Mystic

Anorack 11 May 2010 01:46

No more suggestions on what else for this build?

Re: Axe Mystic

TargetDestroyed 11 May 2010 02:21

I would also suggest to get the extra 5 points of magic for another spell slot. Or stay at 24 for the 4 slots or go up to 30 for 5. Depends on how you want to use your magic.

I personally think HSA is easily dodged. Both when i have used it and when used against me. Ignite can be handy but you gotta be close.

If you plan on using second chance i would stay away from warding. No need as they dont stack. I like warding but if someone invades me with it i usually try and wait till it is down.

You seem to be going in magic. I would say that curse weapon really wouldnt be the way to go. Maybe light weapon but not curse.

So maybe second chance, light weapon, and ignite. Thats 24. if you went to 30 then a ranged spell.

For another weapon. You can go kilij (i plan on making a moon for my character) very nice little weapon. You could also go say crescent weapons. You can get the falcion early on and just keep that and have an easy path to upgrade from 1 to 5. I really like the estoc. I like you can poke behind a shield and disrupt enemies attacks. Also very nice back stab damage.

My faith/magic hybrid uses a Blessed Guillotine Axe+5 (love this axe) and a crescent estoc +4. Had very good success with the change of pace between these weapons.

My build is

Vit-40
Int-18
End-40
Str- 20
Dex- 12 (Not Raised)
Mag- 27
Faith- 36
Luck- 7 (Not Raised)

Or when i get to 120

Last edited on 11 May 2010 02:24 by TargetDestroyed Show more

Re: Axe Mystic

Anorack 12 May 2010 01:23

When I was figuring out the main stats first, 32 into vit, 32 into end, 11 into str, 27 into magic and 4 into Faith, and I ended up with 13 left over stats, which I decided would be best placed into int. That's where the 25 came from. I also discovered something else, I will need to put 2 more points into Faith to get it to 18 to make full use of the ToB, so, the end SL will end up bein g 122 or 123. The spell select can be quite varried even with 4 slots, the reasoning for Warding is more for the fact that when and if SC is cracked, I can toss up Warding and hopefully finish off my enemy, if not, then it will atleast provide me extra protection to heal to full health and MP to rebuff SC when it wears off.

Other spell sets I've been mulling over would be Warding and Poison and Acid Cloud or Warding with Ignite or Warding with HSA or Warding with Fireball…. As you can see this can go on for awhile. I ruled out Firestorm, mainly cause it's too predictable of a spell and the only main way to get it to work would be BS then Firestorm and it takes up 3 slots.

I dropped the idea of a crushing weapon w/ light/curse for another Moon weapon, probably either a Claymore or MH for their range. Armour set is Binded, since this one is a Female character I made. Ancient King's is what I'd go with for a male character. Anyways, I just am rambling here now.

Re: Axe Mystic

Nick1Nintendo 12 May 2010 15:59

Hmm.

The one thing I would definitely reccommend for this build is taking 5 from Endruance and adding it to Intelligence. Trust me, you'll want that extra slot. Soul Ray, Ignite and Homing Soul Arrow are masterful.

If you think you can afford it, moving another 5 points from Endruance to Magic couldn't hurt. It will help you with weapon damage a little, but most noticeably with spells. This will, however, leave your Endurance at 30. Not very good for high stamina weapons (Axes, Large Swords, etc).

Crescent and Moon Weapons can't be enchanted.

Honestly, if you're focusing on the Guillotine Axe, I would follow Ilkar's advice and go with a Strength build. If you're focusing on Magic, I personally would use a lighter weapon, but the Guillotine axe can work if you're smart.

Hope this helps.

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Re: Axe Mystic

CaptCrunchPants 15 May 2010 13:49

I have been using a Moon Guillotine Axe+5 on a character i plan taking pretty high lvl. I wanted to make a character using weapons for Magic that were considered Melee weapons. So I ended up with the Axe and a Cresent Flamberge. With the main difference is i have not really focused on PvP. Though I plan on going higher around sl120 my stats will probably look like:

Vit-40
Int-24 (Firestorm/Soul Arrow or Warding/Fireball)
End-30
Str- 20
Dex- 14 (Cresent Flamberge+5 I use too)
Mag- 46
Faith- 18 (For ToB and SecondChance)
Luck- 8 (Raised 1 because this is for PvE)

Only Thing that would worry me about trying to PvP this build would be the fact the axe sometimes pushes targets out of its own range. Also the stun lock is annoying sometimes it works 1hd other times does not.

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Last edited on 15 May 2010 13:52 by CaptCrunchPants Show more